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Posted by: caruso at August 22, 2007, 2:02 pm

Topic: Ecogra helps a casino to rob me! Forum: Winner Online

I find your responses confused. You say you support their right to carry this rule, but you don't support them when they invoke it rob someone. FL carry this rule, and they invoked it to rob a player. You can't both support and not support them. You in fact support it, and the answer to 2) is "yes".

Of course, you're back to playing your semantic game - you don't support them to "rob", you just support them to "withhold cashouts". This is the same sematic game you've tried to play from the beginning, and it's not getting any more convincing through repetition.

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I believe that the casinos carry this rule in case clever players or criminal gangs come up with something they haven't thought of before.

Your wording is revealing - you put "clever players" right next to "criminal gangs", and mix them together in the "something new" category. You also think casinos need to be protected against players who might do something to piss on the Holy Of Holies and take their money. Clever players don't do anything wrong, they simply do their utmost to take the casinos' money. Players aren't criminals just because they cash out, and your attempt to paint them as such won't wash.

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It is a 'catch all' condition to protect their financial interests.

Your suggestion that casinos need to be protected from their own rank incompetence is absurd; if casinos can't run their business for whatever reason, including their own incompetence, then they need to run with the punches like the rest of the world. Yet you suggest they need to be "protected". Get real - this isn't the way businesses operate. If a business f*cks up, they handle it and move on. You seem to think that a casino business has the unique right to blame everyone else for its own mistakes.

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I would expect most large corporations in this world carry something ery similar - especially if they are mainly dealing with financial transactions.

Name one. Just one. I challenge you. There are none. No genuine financial organisation would be allowed to carry a clause which entitled them to rob their clients with impunity as Fortune Lounge do. What you "expect" is entirely bogus. Even Neteller, who we know DO do this, do not carry the entitlement in their rules - they just do it. Not totally surprising when you look at the clause we're talking about:

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The Casino reserves the right to decide in its sole discretion which activities constitute "irregular play", and to withhold any cash-ins where irregular play has occurred

So, the casino will take all and any form of gambling as an excuse to rob a player (yada yada yada, "withhold cashouts"), and you support their entitlement. Of course, you will bang on with the semantics of "withhold" not meaning "rob", but of course we all know this is what it means.

Anyway, rogue affiliates are two-a-penny, and you're no worse than most and a lot better than some. Still, I have to say: rogue you are, as only rogues support rogues, and I would advise anyone against downloading anything through your links. I wish you the best with your new career. I also hope you will rethink your opinions - they're not in the best long-term interests of the industry.

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