| Posted by: zebranky at January 24, 2007, 11:08 pm | | Topic: calling out a stack-bluff in a live game Forum: Card Chat |
so, for online players, this doesn't apply.
However, for us live players, this is an interesting point on etiquette and the rules.
In California (and Las Vegas), the basic rule on a bet is that any forward motion of chips (ie, a hand holding chips) from your stack is considered a bet. Some casinos set a specific distance (2 inches, 5 cm, whatever), but the basic idea is that any chips that move forward are part of your bet unless you erbally declare your bet before moving them.
Last night, I had one guy constantly "stack bluffing." He'd pull one stack of 20 chips out of his main stack, hold it well forward of the rest of his chips, look around, put the stack down (well forward of any "minimum distance") on the betting area, look around, and then lift all but 2 or 3 chips back off the table and put them back in his main stack. Locally, this is known as stack bluffing - trying to gauge your opponents reaction to a large bet/raise without committing to doing it. It's technically illegal, but people do it all the time. I asked him to stop because it was rude, but he just gave me a look and kept doing it.
Finally, I caught him doing it when I had trip Kings, A kicker.
I told him to stop and put all the chips back in action, as they had come forward and were part of his bet. He got really annoyed (especially when the dealer agreed with me, and called over the floorman who also agreed), and ended up leaving the casino at the end of the hand angry that I had called him out (and, of course, taken 60 bucks from him by doing so).
Here's what I'm interested in hearing - is it appropriate to call him on this once I've warned him once? Just let him keep doing it? I can't contest it when I'm not in the hand, but it looks like I'm just being cheap trying to get his chips if I point it out when I'm in the pot.
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