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Posted by: stormswa at March 22, 2007, 6:03 pm
Topic: 3 betting Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by alan1983

In this example, you bet pot at the same time you 3-raised him. but anyway, yes youd still win more than youd lose BUT, overall youd be winning less than what youd have when you bet bigger.

Youd be saving the bet difference 30% of the time, but youd be winning it less 70% of the time. So theres a 40% of the bet difference loss, maybe less since theyd fold more, but then again thatd apply to the 30% you lose as well.

If you give them odds to chase, then theyre making +EV plays against you. Therefore on long run that +EV is coming out of your pocket.

of course with a AK and KQ its different, but once again its odds. KQ only has 3 outs to beat you, so 3-betting just about any bet would make it a -EV play for them to call you.

joose already answered this so I wont respond with exactly what he said, 3 betting in a heads up pot basically is just a pot sized raise which like joose said is -e for him to call BUT by keeping the pot small and controlled by you, you dictate the action.

You want flush draws to chase you, you want straight draws to chase you. you want to control the pot and basically extract money from your opponents. AND you want to be able to get away from the hand with minimal damage when the draws complete or you are trapped by a better hand. By 3 betting you achieve all this.

if you bet bigger then you make your hand too obvious, you basically tell the person what you have and that the only way they are calling on a draw is if they want to play for entire stacks. NO ONE is going to call that because basically they can put you on a hand instantly. Hell KQ isn't going to call you either and those are the players we want to outplay. In poker everyone gets the same amount of good hands through a course of a lifetime, what makes the winning players from the break even players is how much money they make when they have a good hand. By playing this way you maximize your alue of your hand and minimize your loses.

to me that is +ev!!!!!

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