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Posted by: whyareunvs at July 25, 2006, 5:18 pm
Topic: Anyone else notice this? Forum: Card Chat


Quote: Originally Posted by popcash

Anyone who thinks the online shuffles are rigged is half right. They are actually random, however the site software evaluates every shuffle to see if there are enough strong hands to make the game exciting and bring conflict to the game. If not, the shuffle is discarded and the next random shuffle is produced. That's why there are so many monster hands in online poker. The sites want quick and fatal conflicts to speed up play... the faster your game or tourney is over, the more games they can run ($$$). The more monster hands out there, the more excitement. If online poker used every single random shuffle produced by the software, it would be so boring no one would play.

These are the simple facts of online play... we simply have to accept it or quit playing.

I would disagree with this post for a few primary reasons --

1. What motivation is there to rig the deck? In almost all limits you're going to cap the rake and yes number of hands per hour is certainly important but not if people believe that their play has no impact on the outcome.

2. I've seen 1000's of hands folded to a single moderate raise. This is not consistent with a desire to increase action flops.

3. The number of monster hands is stictly based on the number of hands per hour. When the speed of play is hastened then you're going to see more of these types of plays.

4. You're going to generate a lot of action with moderate hands as a lot of online players are willing to go at it with TPTK when the TP is 7's or worse.

5. The only thing that prevents sites from running as many tables and tourney's as possible is bandwidth.

6. Maybe some out there would consider playing normal hands boring. I love getting something like 8-9 suited in one of the blinds; seeing the flop cheaply, hitting the flop, and extracting as much cash out of guy slow-playing his Q's.

7. Typically, most people that I've met that start the "online poker is rigged" argument are people who cannot turn the page from the bad beats that they've encountered. Not saying that is you popcash.

There is plenty of money to be made in poker online without having to rig the deck. Vegas games in the 70's were much more apt to be rigged than online poker in my opinion. It wasn't until you had Johnny Moss and Eric Drache cleaning up the rooms that poker was able to played by the normal folk.

My .02

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