| Posted by: aliengenius at February 1, 2008, 1:42 pm | | Topic: Set Mining Forum: Card Chat |
Quote: Originally Posted by Bentheman87
So it makes sense we can call with odds a little worse than 8-1 doesn't it?
Quote: Originally Posted by WVHillbilly
You need implied odds of 12:1. You certainly can't call with implied odds of less the 8:1. You're guaranteed to lose $$ by trying to flop a set without at least those odds.
Quote: Originally Posted by Chris_TC
You're confusing something there. The 12:1 rule is not about the pot odds, it's about the implied odds.
If somebody raises to $5 at 100NL, then his stack should be at least $60 big (i.e. 12:1 implied odds) for you to call with a small pair. Note how your pot odds in this example are only 1.3:1 (blinds = $1.50 + $5 raise = $6.50 / $5 = 1.3)
^^these guys covered it-- 8:1/12:1 IS talking about the implied odds, not the current pot odds. As to winning without flopping a set-- that would be nice, but I doubt your opponent is going to accommodate by checking the hand down, and you will certainly lose money long term by calling bets on boards with several broadway overcards.
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