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Posted by: malleeboy at January 25, 2008, 9:52 am

Topic: I am more than 90% certain that all poker rooms are rigged Forum: Casino Meister

Quote: Originally Posted by fatshaft

Well no it isn't, becasue Casinomeister was around and set-up in the days of online casinos (Someone correct me if I'm wrong).

At that time there were no online poker rooms, and nor were there any poker sections within the whole of the Casinomeister site.

It is only latterly that poker has come more into this site, but you will note, that despite the sterling work that the 'Meister does in outing and rogueing shady casino operations, in poker it is incredibly rare, with AP being one of the ery few. Even then there hasn't been a single case found ever of a site in someway rigging its software.

As you would say, that does I think prove a point?

Does this mean they don't? Just because someone has not put the money into cataloging and mapping hands from poker sites does not mean squeeky clean. The FBI and CIA are certainly not! Richard Nixon wasn't and he was running America. You have a lot of trouble understanding the difference between live random poker and software written poker. They are TOTALLY different. There is no doubt that online poker is manipulated (because they can) for many reasons: a) to ensure quick results for tournament play (as they get no rake only entry fee)and: b) for ring games, the faster a hand is completed the more games are created in the hour and therefore more rake. Simple math and what I can see simple rationale.

You have to remember, in live poker 12000 entries would take over 7 days (possibly 10) to complete. PokerStars can achieve that feat in around 5-6 hours. Now there are two reasons for that:

1. The games are faster online ( but not that fast (without help from rigged software) that 11,999 players are eliminated in 6 hours), and

2. Software manipulation ensures fast action and quick results ( I have seen so many setups where three players are all holding pocket pairs - ensuring an all-in scenarios - this is rare in live play, Quads appearing in 4 hands within an hour - never seen that in all my 30 years of playing live, flushs to make you think these are as common as pairs and to top it off, allinners getting runner, runner and winning against someone who has a st8 off the flop so many times it makes a mockery of the statistics of live play)

Without both above points working together, tourneys of this size would hold up the site for days.

I'm sorry but your argument is only based on your narrow iew. However, any player of the live game would be ery suspicious of the "spin" these online sites spew out, and be totally convinced of their charade once they have played online.

One day it will be proven. By the way, isn't poker run by random number generators like casino slots??? Hmmmm do I see something similar here????

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