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Posted by: Linus at May 7, 2006, 11:11 pm

Topic: Mathematical Proof that English Harbour is cheating Forum: Casino Meister

Quote: Originally Posted by Aindreas_Daoc

Gah, this whole thing pisses me off.

Yesterday I had a bad run at BJ on Crypto. Of course these things happen, but before I would be satisfied that it was bad luck. Now this little oice is nagging in my head "What if they pulled an EH?".

This whole thing has really reduced my enjoyment and trust level for all online gambling, not just EH.

English Harbour got caught because the adjustment to the VP game was so dramatic.

If it had been a small adjustment, or if it had been applied to a big payoff game (where it might take thousands, or hundreds of thousands, of trials to prove it wasn't paying off correctly), it might have gone on indefinitely.

I don't think it's safe to assume EH is the only casino that does this, simply because it's the only one to be caught (recently).

Mr. Shackleton blacklisted Elka/Oyster after a 200-game roulette trial. MGM software was BL'd after 700 hands of Video Poker. And of course, Casino Bar was listed after 332 game trial of Black Jack. (That one was similar to the English Harbour case, in that the game became "fair" again after the results of the original trial were reported.)

In none of those cases was there any more "proof" that the adjustments to the odds were "intentional" - other than the mathematical proof that the games were in fact not fair.

To a player, I'm not sure it matters "why" a game is not fair.

Especially since it's hard to imagine how "proof" that cheating is intentional could ever be obtained.

Whether it's intentional, or just inexplicable coincidence the net result is the same for players.

If a casino can't deal a fair game - for whatever reason - it shouldn't be recommended.

Casinos have no reason to deal fair games, except the fear of getting caught. If they can get caught, and still not get punished, they have no reason at all.

Res Ipsa Loquitur - the thing speaks for itself.

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