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Posted by: thelawnet at August 16, 2006, 9:40 pm

Topic: Bonus Issues at Mansion Casino Forum: Casino Meister

Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMaster

The situation is more complicated. 95.264% is the return from line pays assuming optimal strategy for bonus ideo poker is followed, but a player at Mansion would be the strategy for normal ideo poker, which would be different. I cannot be bothered to calculate it, but if Mansion publish their expert's calculations, I am willing to check it.

The strategy giving 95.264% is here &spades;Bonus Video Poker by The Wizard of Odds

Because of the bonus, situations to watch out for are where there is a marginally better hand involving holding four cards, and a less good one holiding two cards - you might be encouraged to discard more cards.

Checking four to a flush/3 to a royal, the strategy with TQK, the lowest hand ranked above a 4 to a royal with two high cards is to hold the TQK. Checking with winpoker, this is indeed correct.

So there is no encouragement to hold 3 cards rather than 4 to get the bonus here - holding TQK is correct strategy

Checking 4 to a flush s high pair, high pair is correct, so no cost here.

Next example is 9TJQ mixed suits, plus a pair of 9s or Ts.

Here correct strategy is 9TJQ for a return of 0.8085
But bonus poker says hold 99 or TT, for a return of 0.650

The same thing for 89TJ with a pair of 8s, 9s, or Ts
Correct strategy is 89TJ, for 0.74468 return
However, for Bonus poker, you hold the 8s/9s/Ts, for 0.650 return

For a T high outside straight, or lower, correct strategy gives 0.681, but holding pairs gives 0.650

Other wrong things:

suited JQ ranked above JQKA mixed: 0.59574 s 0.53802
3 to a straight flush, spread five ranked below garbage. Cost = 0.4088 s 0.3123
3 to a straight flush, spread four, ranked below JQ unsuited. Cost = 0.49028 s 0.46538

So the differences are ery small indeed. There is no way that these few strategy differences add up to 1.7% loss (the difference between what Mansion claim and what WoO says) - when the bonus on cryptologic bonus poker is only worth 3.2%, there is no way in hell that a few minor changes to strategy are (a) costing 1.7% off the return of the line pay, or (b) if they are costing 1.7% increasing the bonus pay by more than that one.

Mansion got it wrong.

Twice.

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