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Posted by: happygobrokey at May 23, 2007, 7:30 pm

Topic: wofacai bonus issue: Pontoon = Blackjack Game? Forum: Casino Meister

post #13

Quote: Originally Posted by tristan727

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Before & during terms....

This bonus doesn’t apply for any blackjack games.

Any non-risk bet (such as bet same time in banker and players in baccarat, or bet same time in red and black in Roulette etc), will not be counted under wager.

Today's

This bonus doesn't apply for any blackjack games and Pontoon.

Any non-risk bet (such as bet same time in banker and players in baccarat, or bet same time in red and black in Roulette etc), will not be counted under wager.

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yes they changed it to explicitly exclude pontoon, but the argument is that "This bonus doesn’t apply for any blackjack games" means no pontoon anyway. they add the "and Pontoon" for those that either mistakenly don't notice the familiarity with bj or the ones that feel they can twist the terms to their own interpretation and somehow convince themselves that pontoon is not a form of bj or "bj game".

tristan keeps saying that 13.14 or whatever says only no bj bets with bonus money, but on page two of the thread in the above quoted post he admits no bj games allowed for the bonus he took. and as was said by i believe simmo and others, in this case no wr was met with the pontoon play. best case. the individual bonus terms override any general clauses in the casino t&c. if you take a bonus whose page says "slots only", you can't use the general t&c bonus clause that says "no roulette, craps, baccarat" to play the slots-only bonus at bj or p or anything other than slots. so a no-bj bonus can't be met playing bj. simple as.

as for fraud, if the player is attempting cashouts prior to wr, warping the terms to try to justify play on pontoon, etc the casino may indeed deem this player abusive/fraudulent. and if any other foul play is afoot, then this duck is dead.

i'd like to ask tristan whether spanish 21, double exposure, super fun 21, etc are blackjack games in his world?

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