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Posted by: Casinomeister at September 25, 2007, 7:34 pm

Topic: Casino Rewards down the drain like Fortune Lounge? Forum: Casino Meister

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12.Observations of playing patterns such as the playing of equal, zero margin or hedge betting may not be considered as playing in the appropriate spirit for the purposes of meeting bonus wagering requirements. Should the Casino deem that these practices have been utilized for the specific purpose of meeting wagering requirements, the casino reserves the right to withhold any cashins and/or confiscate all winnings.

13.Other practices of playing behaviour which may lead to the casino withholding cashins and/or confiscating all winnings include, but are not limited to, placing single bets whereby the wager consists of the majority of the total available balance and the bonus balance contributing to a significant portion of that balance. Should the casino deem that practices such as this have been utilized, the casino reserves the right to withhold any cashins and/or confiscate all winnings.

Whether you like these terms or not, they are there - and there is not much that you can do about it except to avoid these casinos if you are planing to play this way.

Most of you are aware that a few months ago, several MG casino groups were hit by a massive fraud ring that played the exact same way - making a deposit, taking the bonus, and placing it all on one bet, and if the player won, they would grind the wagering requirements away with roulette, etc. The casinos locked all accounts that exhibited this sort of action mainly because they did not like the way the players played. (not to mention about +60% of these accounts were fraudsters).

The main outcry was that there was nothing in the terms and conditions that prohibited this sort of play - the players should be paid. The Fortune Lounge group was rouged mainly because of this subjectivity. Rules need to be clear-cut.

So now these casinos have included these terms, and it's still not good enough for you?

This is BONUS money and not your money. The casino has every right to dictate how this can be played out. If you don't like it, move on to something else.

And as far as I know, eCOGRA does not write the terms and conditions for casinos. I do know that if Ts and Cs are considered unfair or muddled, then eCOGRA will investigate.

Casinos have a right to protect their businesses, but they need to do this in a fair manner. To turn this thread into another <yawn> eCOGRA bash, gets us nowhere. If you really want to do something beneficial, quit sniveling about what you think is unfair, and contact eCOGRA in a businesslike manner. I'm sure they would be receptive to this.

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