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Posted by: cyprean at September 22, 2007, 10:50 pm

Topic: Casino Rewards down the drain like Fortune Lounge? Forum: Casino Meister

Quote: Originally Posted by lojo

Twelve and thirteen together equal a strategy of manipulation that is clearly not acceptable to the CR group.

Do we know of any incidences where, without using a bonus, these terms were invoked? Not likely because the methods, when used together, are not EBM.

Granted, 13 should not be able to be used against a player if not in conjunction with another 'strategy', because it is incumbant upon the casino to set the wagering requirements and invocation of an FU clause like that, by itself, would be unfair BUT it is a term the player agrees to.

That said, I would agree with you that the existence or invocation of thirteen alone, without a bonus(and I understand it isn't delineated in the eCogra policy) would place the casino in a position of breaching the responsible gaming terms of their agreement with eCogra.

So, where do we go from here? Add another fifteen layers of legalese to the T&C? The casinos will continue to modify the bonus terms as long as bonuses exist. Isn't it better to simply know the HE and be a gambler and leave boni alone? I think so, but that's just me. It's called gambling, not 'strategy of manipulation to come out ahead'.

You must understand that the terms are so ague that CR group may interpret as they wish, thus resulting in a FU clause.

It's pretty funny to see that CR breaks eCogra's responsible gambling theorem. Thus we see can yet again what little alue eCogra poses. Some could call it a PR operation founded by the casinos that rubber stamps some casino actions and FU clauses that a non-dependant instititution would not do. Not to bash eCogra and say that they totally out of line, I must admit they have done a lot of good too.

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