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Posted by: hippo925 at January 20, 2008, 5:57 pm

Topic: how slots work, what do you guys think? Forum: Casino Meister

Quote: Originally Posted by kimss

Sure, however if the point is to ensure profit you would go the extra mile. Programming a "random" cycle which is random in every cycle, however predictable in the way that the software can take advantage of good and bad cycles is ery easy. In the end the total payout will also be 95% (or what you want it to be) and the accountants will be happy, stats will look great and everything.

As a software developer I can inform you this is ery easy. Nobody says each cycle is identical, nobody says a cycle is even predictable. What is merely the case is that a cycle should in the end have 95% payout. This my friend, is an entirely different approach - the outcome will still look purely random at _all_ times whatever way you look at it since you can always add some spins to even the odds.

this actually makes a lot of sense to me. i was told pretty much the same thing in regards to programming.

the thing i think is important is that many of the explanations are in regards to b & M slots by companies like igt and aristocrat, and Eliot himself!

can these definitions and explanations apply to online slots just as accurately? i mean... if igt uses PAR sheets to determine the payouts over 10000000 spins, that's gonna be random for any of us, but...........

it's not like there is a "standard" that online slots use. i think a lot of people suspect that different algorythms exist in different slot games at different casinos. but like kimss said, there would be no way to prove or show it since the end result will always seem like the predetermined payback percentage.

i've always wondered if an online casino would be willing to take any sort of ariance on their part... or would it make more sense to have programming that eliminates any risk for the casino yet still would reach a certain percentage range every month that would look "random" under scrutiny.

it would suck for a small online casino to have many small bettors and then one guy comes along, bets big, and puts the casino in the red for the month.

we've all read about the "glitches" in online slots and poker games, English Harbor and rtg's fruit frenzy slot comes to mind. I kept wondering, especially on the rtg fruit frenzy game with the bonus problem, how could there be such a specific glitch that only affects the bonus? (if you think long and hard about this one with the information from this thread.......you should have an AHA! moment!)

thanks for all the input and tell me what you guys think!!

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